Posts by Pete Zahut

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The "overly attached witness parents" problem

by scaredtospeak in

it's so good to finally be nineteen years old.

graduated from high school, taken more seriously as an adult.

i even have a job.

Pete Zahut

Even under the best of circumstances, it's hard on both the parents and on the grown child when they reach that fork in the road where the child leaves the nest. Personal growth is almost always painful but in the end it can't be avoided. If you lay out a sensible plan before them and assure them that you have every intention of handling your new found freedom with maturity, it will do much to alleviate their worries. No matter what though, you will both have to push through all the emotions that this big milestone brings. You'll need to handle any objections or criticisms they may have about your plan, maturely and consider what they have to say with an open mind.

Like so many things in life, there is no right or wrong answer to this situation. Whichever route you choose to take and whatever the outcome, that will become part of the story of your life....the one you'll have to tell.

This song came mind as I read your post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dom7VlltBUc

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Facebook Meme made me angry

by Seeking agape in

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Pete Zahut

I posted the MEME below, on an earlier thread whose topic was discussing the recent attack on Paris. I had remarked on how impressed I am with those who are willing to help strangers and how they seem to come out of the woodwork in times of disaster. People will rush into burning buildings to help perfect strangers (think 9/11) and this weekend in Paris, people went on social media and were "tweeting" offers of cups of tea and places to stay, to anyone who found themselves stranded with no where to go, when the bombings took place.

It made me think back on my upbringing as a JW and the "them vs us" mentality which although was never said outright, fostered the idea that we didn't really need to help anyone else but JW's. Our help to the world was offering them the literature and that was enough and any other kind of help was virtually like putting a Band-Aid on Cancer.

Between that and waiting on Jehovah to solve everything, it was easy to rationalize inaction on my part with regard to charitable works. That's something I've changed since leaving off associating with the folks who claim to love their fellow man yet think it's normal to use every available public service out there but neglect giving back anything in the here and now, to the communities they are a part of.

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The most widely distributed magazine in the US !!!

by Calebs Airplane in

1. watchtower & awake - under review as these is now a 16-page anorexic pamphlets (not magazines) .

2. espn: 42.9 million 3. people: 28 million 4. allrecipes: 24.5 million 5. forbes: 21.6 million 6. time: 18.1 million 7. entertainment weekly: 14.3 million 8. cosmopolitan: 13.7 million 9. bloomberg businessweek: 11.2 million 10. new york: 9.8 million .

Pete Zahut

Just because a magazine is printed, doesn't mean it's actually distributed or actually read and it's probably easier to be the most widely distributed magazine when you publish it twice a month. I'm sure it doesn't hurt business when the Publishers or should I say Paper Boys and Paper Girls who distribute them for free, are your best customers andthey have stacks and stacks of them lying around in their homes because they feel guilty about throwing them out.

Either way, the magazines once though of as the spiritual lifeline of JW's, is going the way of the dinosaur. What ever will there be to do on Sunday after the Public Talk?

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

Pete Zahut

isw1961:"I invite all of you, come back to JW organisation"

And do what, come back and intentionally be part of the "sweet rebellion" you speak of ? You will likely avoid answering my questons as you have so far in this post you started, but I ask you once again, what would your leaders do if they knew you were extending such a generous invitation such as this, on a well known apostate website?

I consider myself to have too much personal integrity to enter in among a group of people and misrepresent myself (as you are doing) with the intention of deceiving them or undermining something that they hold dear. Why would I want to intentionally be part of an organization where people such as you have to be underhanded in order to affect change, rather than through an open honest discussion with it's leaders. If there is a God, I'm sure he would not think very highly of me for doing so nor as the God of the universe would he need me to do so, he'd likely take care of any needed changes, himself. Every example of rebellion in the Bible was not considered "sweet" nor was it held up as an example of something a true servant of God would strive to be part of. It seems to me that if you consider yourself to be a rebel, you should own it and stop pretending to be noble. So thanks but no thanks...been there done that. The peace of mind I've had since leaving the "organization" is not something I'm willing to give up.

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No more printing of WT and Awake in my country.. Shit just got real

by cognitivedizzy in

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guys .

a letter was just read in out kh stating that all printing of wt and awake is ceased for the coming year and we will just place tracts on fs, countries which were cared by our branch will be cared by other countries...along with this they read the new fs form and stuff about reporting links of videos wtf..lol.

i can't tell which country perhaps that will give away a lot, any one with a similar information.

Pete Zahut

There was a time when JW's risked their life and or were put into prison by taking magazines into places where the government didn't allow them. They considered the magazines their life line and without them they'd be in darkness. Nowadays, when it comes to the magazines or anything that was once considered of utmost importance, its as if the attitude is "oh well...c'est la vie ".

As it turns out the Witnesses from the past risked their lives smuggling literature full of what is now considered "old light". They are all gone now, so to most current JW's, it's as if never happened.

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What Is She Thinking?

by thankyou in

i'm a non-jw guy.. joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about jw.

i enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.. question:.

it appears that a non-jw guy is "off limits" to a jw girl-gal.

Pete Zahut

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that dating should only happen when one has an intention of getting married, it is not something that is done for recreation purposes. When it comes to Dating and ulimately marriage, JW's follow the words of 2 Corinthians 6:14 " Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?"

Although they will not say it to your face, you as a non Witness are an unbeliever and are unrighteous and lawless or at the very least, capable of these thigs at any moment and will ultimately pull the JW into your unbelieving ways.

JW parents view the marriage of their Son or Daughter to a non Witness as a catastrophe second only to death or being disfellowshipped. The girl you are interested in is likely being warned not to be swayed by your cunning worldly ways and that even though you may seem like a nice guy you don't love Jehovah and are therefore under the influence of Satan as is the rest of the world. This is not an exaggeration. They will site the experience of Dinah in Genesis Chapter 34 as an example of the disastrous things that can happen when one of God's followers trusts an unbeliever.

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

Pete Zahut

lsw1961 an hour ago

azor, daringhart13

I support the organization in its essence (not its details in which I have my own choices). Kingdom and Kingdom qualities are not cherry picking—they are absolute truth (if practised makes your life light giving only benefits to you and those around you)

Lately the governing Body has stressed the importance of obeying their direction even if it seems illogical to you as an individual. He that is faithful in the little things is faithful in the great things.

As I said in my comment in your last post, you should raise your had in the meeting and make the comments you make here and we'll see how long you and your group of free thinkers lasts.

Wait until you loose a family member over the blood issue, as I did and we'll see how quickly you change your tune about the "essence" of the Organization.

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Brother Tim Horton, the new service overseer

by dropoffyourkeylee in

stopped in tim horton's ( a donut shop) at 10:00 a m today and there were no less than 12 jws in there from three different car groups.

it took about 25-30 minutes for them all to get their orders and get on their way.

that's almost 6 hours of service time in the glorious 'ministry'.

Pete Zahut

Maybe this deserves its own thread but what always gets me is that dubs feel the end is coming NOW....NOW...wait NOW...

But, they live their lives, at least those in my area, as if they don't believe it so much. Coffee breaks? Serioulsy? The people that don't accept your message are going to die and you're having a coffee break?

Right after the 2014 International Assembly my brother announced the following on his Facebook. "What an amazing Assembly program that was....we are truly living in Momentous times my Brothers ! Dainel's prophesy (legs of iron...feet of clay etc.) is about to be fulfilled " . He received many "likes" and gushing comments from other JW"s about the assembly and about paradise being so close.

A few days later he went on his twice yearly month long vacation, this time he was touring all over Europe. He posted pictures every day of all the places he and his 3rd JW wife were visiting. I had to laugh when one of his JW facebook friends (an older sister) said that she was enjoying his pictures but asked if he and his wife are taking time to join in the ministry. This comment was met with silence on my brothers part. But I "Liked " her comment. (couldn't resist)

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Brother Tim Horton, the new service overseer

by dropoffyourkeylee in

stopped in tim horton's ( a donut shop) at 10:00 a m today and there were no less than 12 jws in there from three different car groups.

it took about 25-30 minutes for them all to get their orders and get on their way.

that's almost 6 hours of service time in the glorious 'ministry'.

Pete Zahut

Between the glazed look on the householders faces and the holes in their doctrines, it's only natural that JW's would gravitate towards the nearest donut shop when they're out in service.

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Are You Easily Offended? 😠

by minimus in

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i'm sick and tired of everyone claiming to be "offended".

if you are not politically correct, you will need to apologize for some perceived slight.. when i was an elder, i purposely avoided as much as i could, anybody that got easily offended.

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